"'I would hardly expected that answer from you, Glaucon,' I replied; 'anyone as susceptible as you should surely remember that those of your amorous temperament are always getting bitten with a passion for boys in the bloom of youth, and think they all deserve attention and affection. You know how it is. You praise a snub nose by calling it charming, a Roman nose you call commanding, and one between the two beautifully proportioned; a dark complexion is manly, a fair one divine. And who do you think invented the description "honey-pale" but some lover making fond excuses for pallor on the check of youth? In fact there's no pretext you won't make and nothing you won't say to avoid rejecting youth in its flower.'" Socrates speaking in Plato's Republic